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xxlynne Moderator

Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 5111
Location: Richmond Surrey
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ekkkkkkkkkkk! 4 calls today.. 3 unspayed bitches ; all London; 3 un vax'd; 3 job seekers allowance..organised for 1 to come in Saturday; 1 spayed 5 yr old accomodation move to disabled flat all no dogs allowed.. have until Saturday week..other two awaiting follow up info.
That is without Dee's calls; Emma declares she knows 3 PUT-TO-SLEEP tomorrow.
I cant say NO! 
_________________ You can't train the terrier out of a terrier!
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EmmaSemple User
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 654
Location: Old Coulsdon, Surrey
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Make that 6, but they never said about the other 3.
Emma _________________ Save a Life...Adopt a Staffie! |
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reclaimingrebus Core Member

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 707
Location: crawley
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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every time we get one in, my heart sinks. We have a stunning little bitch in, under the year I feel, but has probably already had a litter. She has mange, but had treatment, but sporting an unsightly bald patch Almost certainly handed in by her owner as a stray.She's out of time now, and I'm waiting for answers. I looked at Freeads and gumtree the other evening. I would think 50% are staffs or associated bull breeds
compulsory neutering? bring it on, anything which helps stem the massacre. |
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xxlynne Moderator

Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 5111
Location: Richmond Surrey
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I put a thread up on rescue exchange which is for rescuers only on dog pages saying how sickened I was for the Holocaust of Staffie people read but only one commented. I think everyone feels impotent.
We are finding excellent homes but the maths doesn't add up with the numbers homed and the numbers in..we've run out of money and Lorenzo will settle pay off the kennel bill don't worry...knowing some beautiful souls have been given the chance to live.
Thank you all who work so hard to support our cause..yes the only way is for the state to step in to prevent rather than step in after the abuse has occurred and a sad life is ended. _________________ You can't train the terrier out of a terrier!
THEY ARE THEIR OWN PEOPLE
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Sharonr - Admin Site Admin

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 2609
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I am sure we all feel very saddened and sickened by it all and hands tied/helpless. Anyone who has any Staffie experience at all will know what a lovely gentle breed they are ... if nothing else, keep spreading that word. _________________ SHARONR - ADMIN
"My sunshine doesn't come from the skies,
It comes from the love in my dog's eyes". |
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EmmaSemple User
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 654
Location: Old Coulsdon, Surrey
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Sadly a couple of months back a group of us wrote to the goverment explaining the situation, but legally, as the law stands, then there is nothing they can do about people breeding their dogs. Dogs are classed as property and if that dog belongs to you, it is your right to breed it, sell it, do whatever you want with it. Obviously cruelty is a different thing, but they stated that there was no way that they could bring in a breeding ban, so we all started the laborious task of educating people.
Unfortunately people still have this old fashioned notion that it is cruel not to allow a bitch to have at least one litter. I have heard this opinion over and over again. In fact one person phoned me asking for a stud dog because he wanted to breed his 6 month old bitch Staffie because she was so pretty. He was even happy to pay me a stud fee!!! I had fun with that one I can tell you, especially because he wouldn't listen to me!
Money is always an issue and the snow has been a blessing to some dogs. It means the vets cannot get to the pounds to euthanase which gives some vital extra days that means we may possibly find them somewhere to go.
It has come to the stage that we have to admit that we can only save what we can manage. Lorenzo is so good for helping out, but kennel bills seem to rise every month with each intake of new arrivals. Maybe I have made too many contacts. When I was doing the small animal rescue I was blissfully unaware of what was going on. That is where the saying 'ignorence is bliss' is true. Now I spend every waking hour thinking about dogs that are about to die. I go on a night out and am continuously checking my phone to see if someone has text me some good news. I eat my dinner poised over the computer screen seeing if someone is going to offer a vital space and feel sick if I miss out on an offer. In fact my mum literally dragged me off the pc tonight and forced me to watch a film because she said I am getting ill with it all!
Hopefully as the weather improves then more homes will come forward.
Emma _________________ Save a Life...Adopt a Staffie! |
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reclaimingrebus Core Member

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 707
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | We are finding excellent homes but the maths doesn't add up with the numbers homed and the numbers in..we've run out of money and Lorenzo will settle pay off the kennel bill don't worry...knowing some beautiful souls have been given the chance to live.
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what can I say?Our next move must be
serious fundraising.
How is the charity status going? We can at least claim tax relief on the donations.
| Quote: | | Sadly a couple of months back a group of us wrote to the goverment explaining the situation, but legally, as the law stands, then there is nothing they can do about people breeding their dogs. Dogs are classed as property and if that dog belongs to you, it is your right to breed it, sell it, do whatever you want with it. |
No there's not a lot that can be done about people whose dogs have 1 litter, but there are a large number of people who repeat breed. There are licensing laws about this, though getting your council to do anything may prove difficult. But, these people may be in contravention of tenancy agreements, not declaring income received (which the IR may be interested in). i heard about 1 woman who had 13 shih tzu in a small terraced 2 bedhouse. When challenged by the housing manager she stated she only bred them for fun as she showed them, and the surplus pups she gave away to be guide dogs  |
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Katie User
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Its interesting to think of things from a tax evasion point of view - that may be a way we can actually do something.
Theres got to be a project in there for someone - searching gumtree / free ads for eg for repeat ''home bred / back yard' and then reporting them to someone for investigation. If only I had more time at the moment! |
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reclaimingrebus Core Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| as a glimpse of the underworld out there - have a look at the freead listings. Some of these look genuine, until you realise that the phone numbers are given in a mixture of text and numeral. why would anyone do that? Because you can use the same number, but by changing the way it's set out, it makes it much harder to search on. And why would that worry you, unless you were trying to hide something? |
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Dee Peter User
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 154
Location: Guildford, Surrey
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
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We have been fostering our Harry for nearly 3 weeks this Sat and wanted to share our our experiences on having our "first Staffie" foster. I sadly have only encountered the breed with the Status Symbol people so had my reservations on how I would feel, but I had no hesitation in "helping" one of the many Staffies needing a kennel break as opposed to the "fluffy" ones that seem to get homes so much quicker.
I have been amazed at the compliments Harry has had. Obviously expected from the "young ones" that would probably have him in a studded collar, but also from people that would not own one and have their fluffy dog by their side. We went over to Onslow where I know its full of your Pedigrees, "Fluff n All Dogs" and saw one man change his direction of walking when we arrived. I was hurt by this but wasn't surprised. When we finally caught up he looked bit worried, but we had a chat with him and the dogs all greeted one another beautifully and Harry had compliments all round saying how lovely he was. The man I think was pleasantly surprised by how nice "Staffies" can be but explained that he was always concerned when he saw them as it was always the "young" he saw them out with these "huge collars". I sadly understood what he meant as I see the same.
Staffies have the reputation of not always starting a fight but will "put a dog in there place if one starts on them" and obviously having the jaws they have can be a concern that tags along with the reputation. Not ALL of them are the same, Harrys had plenty of opportunity to "put dogs in their place", but he has not reacted, so not "ALL" of them are the same.
As I've always said I am amazed at how gentle they are with children given the size they are and how powerful they look. Harry in the morning spends more time with Callum in his room than down stairs with the rest of us. Aparently Staffies "make their friendship" with the weaker one in their family pack. So nice for children to have their own 4 legged friend that are loyal to them, and from my point of view is very touching to watch.
I feel so sad for the dogs when I see another "one" coming into Rescue and think how long before they get their home over the "fluffy" ones which don't get me wrong they "ALL" deserve their own homes. Comparing our Fosters Staffies V Fluff, everyone was so keen to come and "greet" the fluffy ones - kids would coming racing over, people were happy for their dogs to come and greet etc but have a Staffie and people are a bit more "laid back". If they only knew, which they did find out in time, it was the Staffie that was more pleased to meet you and your dog than the "Fluff Balls" in our case anyway!!!!
I hope that people see from our experiences its not all bad having your "plain ole Staffie". They thrive on their family's existence and love to be part of every day life with them and seem not to have their "favourites" in the pack just love them all, warts n all, the same.
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