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Change of Homing Policy JUL09
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EmmaSemple
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty much it Paul&Annie.

When it is time to pay for the animal the phone is switched off/never answered or you get a dead line. Once someone claimed that they had already paid for the animal on collection even though they hadn't or they continuously tell you that a cheque is in the post and when it never arrives it is always 'lost in the post'.

It is a battle that neither RR or myself need being that we are already working on a shoestring and budget and although we don't do it for the money, the people that board the dogs, sell the food and treat for veterinary issues do run businesses and want their money! We make no profit...everybody else does! But at least the animals are alive and living the life they deserve.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Donations Reply with quote

... if someone can not financially afford to pay the adoption fee then they should not be taking the dog on in the first place... what happens when that animal needs vet treatment, if they can't afford to pay the adoption fee in the first place they most certainly can not afford the ongoing maintenance of a dog.

We are adopting Freddie... we are contributing more than the adoption fee... I would love dearly to give more but that's what I can afford at this time... but I have setup a standing order and that will be there and in place for a long time to come.

These guys are busting a gut to help these animals we as humans should be busting a gut to help them!  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your post Syd73. We really are grateful for every single ounce of help/support, financial or otherwise that we receive.

I will revisit your post to cheer myself up when we have a low moment. Very nice to feel appreciated, but then everything we do is out of compassion for the dogs and it's not so hard to feel so motivated when you meet them in the fur - so we'll keep busting that gut  Wink Thank you  Very Happy
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EmmaSemple
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep! Look into the eyes of Daisy and Polly who were close to being sold as bait dogs due to the back yard breeder being desperate to get rid of them and you will see that your support really makes a difference. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I actually dont think this goes far enough.

I would send all dogs out on a full adoption agreement, with full payment having already been received before the dog is handed over (e.g. BANK CHEQUE or CASH).  Unless you have facilities to check the cash for forgery I would also consider not accepting £50 note or above.

To address the issue of a) homing kennel dogs and b) peoples pride or greed I would consider putting in a clause of 2 week 'grace period' which runs from the date of collection for 14 days in which the adoptive may return the dog to your premesis and be entitled to a full refund.

This should mean that ...

a) for dogs that stay homed - you get paid
b) for dogs that fail - you get them back (and they are not sold on either to re-coup some of their £150 or FTGH because people are too proud to admit they failed.

By only accepting bank cheques (& cash), the person must have had funds to draw on - if they write you a personal cheque you have very little protection even with their guarentee card details.  (many banks will charge for this but as far as i can see that encourages ppl to bring cash, or if people dont want to carry that amount of cash they pay the extra !)

I cannot see any reasonable excuse why an adoptive owner coming to meet a dog having already been homechecked and expecting to take the dog if they like it should not be able to produce £150 either in cash or bank cheque.

I have collected 2 rescue dogs of my own and both were paid for in cash at the time of handover  (£70 for one and £150 for the other).  We were told by the rescues up front the dogs wouldnt be handed over without it so we brought it with us.    

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EmmaSemple wrote:
Excellent idea and also a policy which my own rescue has just put into place due to people 'ripping off' the rescue.

Can I suggest that with cheques that a cheque card must be produced so that the number on the back with guarantee clearence?



I would recommend that as I have had a number of cheques "bounce" when rehoming dogs ...

Your policy sounds very fair to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am apalled to hear that people have taken dogs without paying the  adoption fee. If they can't honour this part of the homing  agreement then what  guarentee that other terms will be kept to. They  could sell the  dog on.

Did you contact the Police ?  They should be able to help you recover the  money or the  dog. To take "goods" without payment is theft.

Or take them to civil court to recover the cost. You can use the small claims court and don't need a solicitor.

Get the  story into the local paper in the  area where the  people live then all their  neighbours and work mates and family  will know what  utter scum they are. Name and shame.

If you  are going to take  cheques then don't hand the dog over until you  have  cleared funds in your bank account. If the  cheque  card is for £50 and cheque is £150 you  aren't covered. Also 3 consequetive cheques for  £50 each also aren't allowed by the  banks.

I am the welfare officer at  a local rescue. I adopted a dog from them. They've known me  10 years but  I still paid a deposit and then put the  rest of the cash on the  counter for the  dog before  I took him home
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first post happens to be in here and i too am appalled that someone could rip off a rescue centre  Mad

I think you do great work and having visited a number of centres on the look out for an addition to my family I am also suprised to find out any dog  is released without 1st obtaining payment.  This is not a normal practise anywhere else and applaude you for taking a harder line.

As for cheques, in almost every industry that i come across they are being refused.  There are some exceptions, however, i work for london underground and we have withdrawn payment by cheque for over 2 years now! - DONT TAKE CHEQUES, how hard is it to go and get the cash from the cashpoint ?

On my form it stated is £150 a problem for you and i replied it would be a struggle but i'd get there!  That would be the same for 99% of everyone else  I feel

Anyway, love the work you do,  keep it up and hopefully i'll be turning up at the kennel soon  Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we rescued sonny we weren't charged but we had to get him nuetered, vac'd, wormed and microchipped which cost us over £200, more than you're asking as a donation but we gladly paid it to know that he's in the best possible shape, we also had a lump removed from his foot, luckily nothing serious and have paid out because he had gastroenteritis, these cost us over £1k ( thank god for pet insurance) but at the end of the day if people can't or won't pay out to know that their animal is in good health and has been in the best hands then they shouldn't have an animal. Making people aware of the costs involved can only be a good thing and get them ready for looking after the animal for the rest of his/her life.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot beleive it that some people do not want to hand over the £150 FOR THE DOG THEY WANT, I think it is a totally fair price, considering the dog has been looked after, vaccinated, spayed, chipped and fed.
If they are paying by cheque, is should be sent 2 weeks before, so it can be cleared.


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